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    • Page FISA Litigation
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  • Who Ran the DOJ Really?
  • DOJ activity Re-Review?
  • 03 17 2017
  • NSA Database Topic
  • Footnote 68 & 69
  • FISA & 702 Talk
  • Framed for Treason?
  • Page FISA Litigation
  • video

Why do Legal FISAs Matter - 2 Hop Rule?

Were Americans Illegally Surveilled due to Clinesmith Plea?


If you want to skip the words and see an illustration of what the 2-HOP illegal FISA did with invading Carter Page's life and his associates - then just click here - full Video Representation.


  • A FISA warrant was obtained for Carter Page on October 21, 2016. The Steele Dossier appears to be the primary supporting evidence of the warrant. The primary sub source (PSS) for this dossier was Igor Danchenko.


  • This PSS was interviewed by the Washington Field Office (WFO) FBI 3 times in 2017 on January, March, and May. In May 2017 the PSS informed the WFO FBI that in January of 2017 he told the “Crossfire Hurricane” Investigation team that there was “zero” corroboration for any statement within the dossier.


  • In fact, in the PSS’s previous interviews in January and March of 2017 he informed them it was all “word of mouth and hearsay”.


  • On August 19, 2020 the FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith (submitting this FISA on Carter Page) admits to altering the email for the FISA application during the ‘Crossfire Hurricane' Investigation.


This has massive consequences due to the invasive nature of the FISA that allows collection of the initial target and 2 hops from that target (the contact and their contacts). 


For a visual reference see the image  above.

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Ask yourself, how many Americans were illegally collected (incidental) due to this fraud on the court? 


And where do we get our 4th Amendment Right restored?

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How is a Title I FISA warrant different than a Title III warrant issued by a local judge on a person

How is a Title I FISA warrant different than a Title III warrant issued by a local judge on a domestic person? 


  • Title I FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978) - Federal


  • Title III warrant (Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968) - Local


Do we care? 


  • Does a Title I FISA warrant look at 1 person (target) like a Title III warrant does? Hmm, good question, I never thought about that.


  • Does a Title I FISA surveil anyone the target talks to (One Hop)? Again, good question I never thought about that.


  • Does it surveil any contacts of the person the target may have talked to (Two Hop)? Again, this is new to me.


Is this implying that American citizens through something called a 2-Hop Rule can have their entire digital life collected and set in the trust of an NSA/FBI/CIA analyst to keep it private (or masked as they like to call it)?


  • Does anyone know who Edward Snowden is? What about Bradley Manning? 


If we are to give the Government this enormous spying power, don’t we want them to treat it with respect and only use it to stop acts of terrorism in our country.


I ask again, do we care? What is the 4th Amendment Right? Does it matter anymore?


  • 4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


I ask again, is there a difference between a Title 1 Warrant (Agent of Foreign Power) and a Title III warrant (Local warrant to investigate a single person of criminal conduct)?


  • The answer is confusing, because the knowledge of it will make you concerned about your 4th Amendment Rights.


For example, what is the legality of a getting a Title 1 FISA on a domestic person? Let’s choose Carter Page as an illustration since this is a recent event.


  • A Title I FISA is not a legally usable tool for domestic terrorism, as its surveillance authority are only legal for monitoring activities of foreign powers and agents of foreign powers.


  • Title I FISA ACT Authorization: Through “We The People”, Congress authorized counter terrorism agents the use of FISA authority to stop acts of terrorism in our country.


Does FISA authorize the surveillance of US citizens not deemed as agent of foreign powers?


  • The Answer is No.


How did Carter Page get a Title I FISA warrant issued on him?


  • Carter Page (Naval Academy Graduate) was an FBI and CIA asset that assisted these Agencies in thwarting terrorism.

Answer: The FBI forged documents to submit Carter Page to the FISC court as a “Agent of a Foreign Power” - FBI Attorney Kevin Clinesmith (Mueller Team)


So if Carter Page was fraudulently labeled, as an Agent of a Foreign Power, to obtain a FISA, did it only effect him and his privacy? 


  • Do we need to learn more about the substantial authority “We The People” via Congress authorized this Title I warrant to have on surveillance?


Again, re-review the discussion above about the 2-Hop rule, and ask yourself:


  • Was your data and privacy illegally collected? 


  • Has anyone been held accountable?


  • Is this entire system no longer sustainable due to how easily and readily it is abused


  • Should "We The People" no longer authorize its use.


An Option for AG Barr - Who can go down as a great man, or.....


  • Arrest the abusers...


  • Forfeit the system...


  • Or tell us “We the People” that we are ruled by you, and we no longer have a Republic.


2 of the FISA warrants obtained on Carter Page were already rulesd they LACKED CAUSE (invalid) - Don't believe me?  - Read here 


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FISA LAW From Birth to Current Form

Expansion of Power Over Time

Lets start in 1995 and work all the way through to the addition of a term called 702


  • In 1995 FISA expanded to Physical Searches


  • In 1998 included Pen Registers and Trace Devices


  • In 2001 the Patriot Act extended the powers to four main purposes: (1)Enhancing the federal government’s capacity to share intelligence, (2) Strengthening the criminal laws against terrorism, (3) Removing obstacles to investigating terrorism, and (4) Updating the law to reflect new technology. 


  • By 2008 congress amended FISA to include US ISPs and enacted Section 702 as part of the 2008 FAA


What is 702? 


Learn more! inform others - (The FISA Conundrum); (How was 702 used in 2016?); (Use of 702 as a domestic surveillance tool)

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